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[Erratic_Knight]

I HATE the DF devs now... After being fed bullshit and lies for 5 years I was pissed and letdown, but now I'm just angry... As soon as the game went gold the dev's got all hardassed on macroers. The community response was maybe you should have established systems that were more interesting...

Well today they released a patch and what do i see in the patch notes...

Features

* Auto Harvesting Enabled. Simply stand in front of the resource node and click the left mouse button. Your character will continue to harvest from the node until the node is depleted, character runs out of stamina, or is interrupted.
* A hotkey can now be assigned to each slot in the hotbar. Go to options > Input bindings to set them.

Fuck them... They just put a macro in the game... Instead of creating an engaging craft system they put DF macros in to allow everyone to more easily partake in their shitty as harvest system. Fuck them and their stupid asses... Such a bullshit cop-out...

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthrea...503#post3328503

[Nubs]

That is pretty shitty. But let me ask you something... was UO's system better? I'm not sure because although it was fun as hell it was also repetative as well. Anyway, I am still gonna wait until they release US servers and hopefully they have fleshed out the problems by then.

[Darthus]

I HATE the DF devs now... After being fed bullshit and lies for 5 years I was pissed and letdown, but now I'm just angry... As soon as the game went gold the dev's got all hardassed on macroers. The community response was maybe you should have established systems that were more interesting...

Well today they released a patch and what do i see in the patch notes...



Fuck them... They just put a macro in the game... Instead of creating an engaging craft system they put DF macros in to allow everyone to more easily partake in their shitty as harvest system. Fuck them and their stupid asses... Such a bullshit cop-out...

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthrea...503#post3328503

There's a difference between this and macroing EK. Spamming your magic via an afk macro circumvents the game design, which is that you raise your skills through use. This removes a completely meaningless and tedious mechanic, having to click every so often to keep doing what you chose to do. You still have to be around to make actual decisions like to switch nodes or when to stop. But imagine you had to click every 30 seconds to keep your griffin moving in WoW. Would a totally awesome exciting gathering system be better? sure, but that's not the point of the game.

[Erratic_Knight]

There's a difference between this and macroing EK. Spamming your magic via an afk macro circumvents the game design, which is that you raise your skills through use. This removes a completely meaningless and tedious mechanic, having to click every so often to keep doing what you chose to do. You still have to be around to make actual decisions like to switch nodes or when to stop. But imagine you had to click every 30 seconds to keep your griffin moving in WoW. Would a totally awesome exciting gathering system be better? sure, but that's not the point of the game.

It shouldn't have ever been in the game in the first place though is my point. it's a bandaid for a broken leg and it's hypocrisy at its finest...

And there isn't much decision making as far as switching nodes. Every 20 minutes move 5 ft to next push then click button... Gay bullshit... But here's the kicker

The fact that they put this button in there means that the progression from 0 to 100 is meaningless therefore take out the fucking progression and grant everyone 100 in harvest if you are going to implement the macro. Gay fucking gay...

[Darthus]

It shouldn't have ever been in the game in the first place though is my point. it's a bandaid for a broken leg and it's hypocrisy at its finest...

And there isn't much decision making as far as switching nodes. Every 20 minutes move 5 ft to next push then click button... Gay bullshit... But here's the kicker

The fact that they put this button in there means that the progression from 0 to 100 is meaningless therefore take out the fucking progression and grant everyone 100 in harvest if you are going to implement the macro. Gay fucking gay...

I don't understand half your complaints. The progression was meaningful before, but it's meaningless now? I don't see how.

And if yeah, if you think harvesting should be something different than it is, then your argument should be with the system, not this patch note. And also as Nubs said, this is the exact same harvesting system that was in UO and not too different from what's in WoW, except WoW makes you move around more.

I don't see how this has anything to do with Hyporcrisy or macroing, considering, as I said, they have a problem with macroing because it takes a skill you're supposed to raise through use and raises it by spamming it, plus the vast majority of people are afk who are macroing. You can't be afk while doing this.

[Nubs]

It shouldn't have ever been in the game in the first place though is my point. it's a bandaid for a broken leg and it's hypocrisy at its finest...

And there isn't much decision making as far as switching nodes. Every 20 minutes move 5 ft to next push then click button... Gay bullshit... But here's the kicker

The fact that they put this button in there means that the progression from 0 to 100 is meaningless therefore take out the fucking progression and grant everyone 100 in harvest if you are going to implement the macro. Gay fucking gay...

I agree. Get rid of the macro. And add what UO added, the possiblity for an agressive mob spawn. This way if you macro at all you are fucked.

[Darthus]

I agree. Get rid of the macro. And add what UO added, the possiblity for an agressive mob spawn. This way if you macro at all you are fucked.

That just sounds irritating. I think AoC did the same thing. If you're going to make Harvesting boring, accept it's boring and automate it a bit so people can at least read a book or something. Don't add irritants in so you have to stare at your screen while doing something boring. Do I want to have to stare at my screen during a griffin ride?

I think I've yet to see an MMO though that makes harvesting enjoyable. EQ2 tried to make crafting interesting by making it more like combat, but harvesting was still boring as fuck.

[WinnebagoWarrior]

I liked the aggro mob spawn in AoC. They dropped decent loot sometimes.

[bonedead]

It doesn't take very long to deplete a node, a few minutes maybe? But I know there were people using third party apps to automate it. Meh. Kinda gay, but I don't even care anymore.

[DesertedSoul]

lolz. knew this type of shit would happen.
i didn't even need to say "I told you so"...fuckers
HA FUCKING HA
and people rag on me for playing lotro
play a game that works.
HA FUCKING HA

[bonedead]

I just won a free copy of lotro courtesy of Kill Ten Rats, suhweet!

[Darthus]

lolz. knew this type of shit would happen.
i didn't even need to say "I told you so"...fuckers
HA FUCKING HA
and people rag on me for playing lotro
play a game that works.
HA FUCKING HA

I'm glad you're happy, but I'm not sure about what. The game is I think more than anyone expected it to be, which was vaporware. Anyone who felt this wasn't going to be buggy as shit and horribly unpolished was an idiot.

Enjoy WoW with hobbits.

[WinnebagoWarrior]

Yeah, im not sure what hes so pleased about either. There were about 2 people here that believed in this game before its release. Everyone else said it was going to be shit. Even the ones who beleived in it knew it was going to be shit, but they actually thought it would be released. The rest of us didnt.

[bonedead]

My names red, because I'm super.

[GhostCow]

Super lame!

I donated too, where's my mod status? I used to have it on the DF board back in the old days


Oh, and fuck Darkfall

[bonedead]

You just have to bitch like I did lol.

[GhostCow]

Apparently